Iron and Steel Technology in Japanese Arms & Armors - Part 4: Armor making

Iron and Steel Technology in Japanese Arms & Armors - Part 4: Armor making


A shop of a armor makers in the Edo period, from  
職人尽絵.


After discussing how swords and blades in general were made in the last part of my series, in this article I will try to explain how plates for armors were made in the 16th century.
If you are already familiar with my series, you will already know that these posts are exclusively made with the late Muromachi and Azuchi-Momoyama period in mind; in fact despite few scattered evidences, plates weren't used to make armors up until the mid 15th century as I have explained in detail here.


Unlike with Japanese swords, the information on Japanese armor making seems to be quite rare and scarce, and on top of that, very few metallurgical studies exist both in English and in Japanese, so it is fair to said that this field is still a work in progress.
As usualbefore I start, here the disclaimer;

I might have missed something here and there, and I might be wrong since I don't have neither the experience nor the academic background to be precisely accurate. Please take these information with a "pinch of salt".
Despite this limitation, I'm using academic references that you can find throughout the article to back up my thesis.


If you haven't done yet, to better understand the topics I will discuss here, I suggest you to read what kind of iron ores were used in Japan and how these ores were turned into steel and iron ingots.


Most if not all of my article will be based on the account described by Sakakibara Kōzan in his masterpiece, "The Manufacture Of Armour and Helmets in Sixteenth Century Japan".


On the making of plates

Kōzan suggest that the best plate used to make armor should be made with an outer surface of high carbon, hard steel and an inner layer of iron (or low carbon steel), the former half the thickness of the latter.
This composition was used later on in Europe (duplex armor) and on steel warships of the 20th century as well.
The various ingots of steel and iron were collected in the armorer shops, where the forging process started, in a similar way to what a bladesmith did.
Kōzan mentions that the best steel came from Harima, while for iron, disused hoes and spades were quite good. He also states that although the two materials have the same origin, they are different in properties. In fact, while extensive forging will make iron stronger, steel on the other hand gets softer and dull. Although the knowledge of material science was incredibly limited at the time, he was right about its statements.

Just like any pre-modern technology, armor making was subjected to trial and error processes in order to figure out the best way to forge the plates, and these tests were documented by the author; this is quite interesting, because it gives us insights on the properties of the armor through the eyes of the ancient makers.
As I have explained before, steel (and iron) needed to be refined and consolidated due to its pre-modern method of production, whether it was obtained by a bloom or by a refined cast iron ingots.
The process is always the same: folding. This was done in order to reduce the number of inclusions, spread them evenly and to homogenize the carbon content.
Folding wasn't a unique feature of Japanese steel, but it was widespread all over the world up until the late 18th century.



Among the various methods of folding the steel studied by the armor makers in the 16th century (and likely before), the ones used for swords, namely masame kitae 柾目鍛え,straight grain folding) and itame kitae ( 板目鍛え, board grain folding) were unsuited for armor plates; the former was apt to split while the latter to flake and neither of these two were able to withstand arrows or bullets.
The technique that works best, according to Kōzan, is the j
ūmonji kitae (十文字鍛え, cross grain folding) which will be explained below.



Hiromichi Miura Sensei hammering a plate for a suit of armor. Taken from this fantastic video.


In fact, it is believed that folding gives unique properties to the grain size and orientation, as it is observed in Japanese swords, because the grain alignment and packing is manipulated much more during the forging process.
The idea probably roots back in the wood technology, where composite materials are created to improve strength and stiffness, by cross-orienting highly anisotropic layers, and is older than the 16th century.
In fact it is possible that the same technique could have been used before in armor making.

As I said in my blade making process article, this properties seems to be observed in Japanese sword but as far as we know with material science, the high temperature that is
required to forge weld together the different layers anneals the metal and cancels previous deformations (as preferred grain orientation), determining the impossibility of reproducing a well defined cross-oriented material. In fact, during annealing the microstructure of the deformed metal undergoes a sequence of consecutive and overlapping stages such as, recovery, re-crystallization, and grain growth.

On the other hand however, we have the tests done by Sakakibara Kōzan that states how different types of folding produce different types of grain orientations and thus different properties on the plate which indeed reacted differently against impact.

(References:

 "The Manufacture Of Armour and Helmets in Sixteenth Century Japan" by "S.Kōzan"

"Phase composition mapping of a 17th century Japanese helmet " by "A. Fedrigo, F. Grazzi,  A. Williams, S. Kabra and M. Zoppi" )





Cross oriented folding - J
ūmonji kitae (十文字鍛え)

The process starts by selecting the two (or more, depending on the size) different ingots, one of steel and one of iron.
To determine the nature of the material, the ingots are heated and quenched into water, and then hammered in order to consolidate them; this is the same process used for sword making and it is called mizuuchi (水打ち).
Once the harder steel is separated by the softer ones, the latter is further mixed with hardened steel taken from the yakiba (焼刃) of broken swords, or with normal high carbon steel.
After the two materials are ready to forge, they are heated and beaten into two different plates.

Then the same process start for both plates; they are cut into the middle and superimposed with the grains running in the same way. They are then welded and forged again to obtain the same thickness. This process is know as oru (折る
) and since this type of forging reduced the carbon in the material, steel shouldn't go further than 5 times according to Kōzan; this means that unlike with swords, in which the amount of carbon was likely to be higher than 1% for the hard steel, a slightly softer carbon steel was preferred with armor, likely around 0.5%. In fact while a hard steel is good for edged tools, it is not suitable for armor plates.



The Oru process explained in a sketch; on the left the plate, on the right the two halves of the plate superimposed with the grains running in the same direction.

Once the oru process is done, the plate is split again in two halves, but this time they are superimposed with the grains in a perpendicular orientation, resembling a cross, hence the name. When the plate is forged, a complex grain structure should be obtained.
The two  finished plates 
are then forge welded; the surfaces are grooved chequerwise so that in the hammering the lime and the charcoal have avenues of escape.
In welding the plates, only the iron is hammered; being softer, it is beaten wider than the other. The surplus is trimmed off and eventually recycled for another plate.



Another sketch of the procedures involved; on the top left, the plates are superimposed with grains running perpendicular. On the top right, the grain are aligned in a complex matrix. At the bottom there is the final steel&iron plate when the two are welded together "chequerwise".

Kōzan also gives us insights on how to perform heating&hammering; when the steel or iron is heated, the smith has to be careful: too much heating will make the material too soft, while a low temperature won't allow the iron (or steel) to be forged properly.
Regarding the forging, he uses an infallible criterion in order to judge degree of hammering: bending the material. If the fold looks rough further forging is desirable, while if it looks smooth the plate is done.

(References:

"The Manufacture Of Armour and Helmets in Sixteenth Century Japan" by "S.Kōzan"

"Phase composition mapping of a 17th century Japanese helmet " by "A. Fedrigo, F. Grazzi,  A. Williams, S. Kabra and M. Zoppi"


"Neutron diffraction characterization of Japanese armour components" by "Anna Fedrigo and Francesco Grazzi")


Final Conclusions and Analysis

The reason behind a superimposed layered structure of steel and iron is that the former, being harder could prevent penetration of edged weapons like arrows or spears, while the latter deadens the impact which was a very desirable property against bullets; in fact, this was the method to produce bulletproof armor in Japan known as tameshi gusoku (試し具足).
However it is fair to notice that this method was used only with the top quality armor, and not the munition grade ones; in fact, quoting Kōzan, the hammering and tempering employed during the making burns almost 70% of the starting material, and 18 kg of iron and steel are required to make a single breastplate of 5.6 kg.

This structure is observed on plates used to make breastplates, helmets but also other armors components like the lames used to make the shikoro, the nape guard of the Japanese helmets, or the small plates used to assemble the haidate, the thigh guard as well as the lames used to make the tassets, so it's highly possible that entire suits of armor made with such plates were made for the upper class.
The final thickness of the plate as claimed by Kōzan is about 2 mm, but it could be further increased since there are examples of thicker armor.
Until now, the structure described by the author was observed in several armors that presented different hardness value on the inside and on the outside of the plate, but a different combination made with a layer of hard steel wrapped around two layers of softer steels was also discovered recently.



A tameshi kabuto; the "bullet proof" is located in the middle of the forehead as you can see from the mild depression.

As far as the carbon content of Japanese armor is concerned, there aren't plenty of data. Only a tiny fraction of the few armors analyzed presented such structure, and the sample is too low to make any sort of conclusion.
In any case, while the majority of armor had a carbon content of 0.01-0.2%, making the steel used essentially wrought iron, there are some samples which were made with plates that had 0.4-0.8% of carbon.
In particular, two helmets analyzed that were made with the layered structure had respectively 0.8%-0.6% and 0.4% for the harder outer surface, while 0.3-04% and 0.2% for the inner ones.
So just like the European armors of the period, it is fair to assume that medium to high carbon steel was used for the top tier plates, while wrought iron composed the majority of the munition grade armors.
Being made of lower carbon steel isn't necessarily a bad thing; the softer steel reacts by bending after receiving a strong blow, and the force its absorbed by the plastic deformation.

It was also observed that the steel used for the breastplate, helmets and pauldrons was usually harder (0.6-0.8%) on the outside, while the steel used for limbs armor was softer (0.4-0.5%); the latter plates were better at absorbing shocks like the cut of a sword or a hit from a polearm, while the former were much harder to pierce and performed better against arrows, spear thrusts and similar threats.




A close up of a breastplate in the Okegawa style with several bullet dents; again penetration was prevented by the armor's plates.


Regarding hardness instead, all the plates analyzed were hardened through cold working, and it seems that quenching, unlike with swords, wasn't used in when it comes armors.
This is an anomaly, since it doesn't make too much sense: hardening was used in swords, so it should have been used with armors too.
Few studies have been done in this direction, the most famous is the one of A. Williams, although I would argue that the number of armors analyzed was quite low.
However, his conclusions aren't correct in my opinion.
In his paper, he states that since sword masters and armorers were two different types of artisans, there wasn't a shared knowledge on the field of steel science.
Still, we do know that this was not the case, since there are examples of swords makers that became armorers, we have the tests done by Kōzan highlighting that he was well versed with the kitae used in bladesmithing, and most importantly, armorers were also famous to occasionally produce tsuba (
) which are the hand guard of the sword.

Although this last detail might seem odd to quote, it is an important fact: a tsuba of the late 16th century was analyzed by the same author, and this example not only stood out for the high quality of the steel, but also because it was quenched in order to harden it.
This fact proves that even the artisans who made tsuba were aware of that process, and we do know that they were linked to armor makers.

It is possible that to withstand bullets from arquebus, a softer material performed better since we see a similar trend in European armors of the 16th century, with hardened pieces diminishing severely.




Another tameshi kabuto.


Despite the study done by A. Williams, at least one example of Japanese armor was hardened; in fact, in a paper in which William took part, a nodowa (throat guard) of the 18th century presented a layer of martensite, something that requires hardening by quenching. While it's clearly two hundreds years younger than the period discussed here, it is highly possible that the same technique would have been known to the armorers of the 16th century, mainly because there wasn't any type of improvements in armor development during the Edo period.
Moreover, it is quite debatable that they were able to establish the date of such piece, since there were no signature on nodowa, and dating of Japanese armors is a topic on its own (spoiler: it's almost impossible to date a Japanese armor with accuracy unless signature is present). Unfortunately no hardness value were given.

Last but not least, Kōzan in his work explicitly says that if the heating is not high enough, the steel "won't stand hammering or hardening".
According to some members of the Japanese armor association, hardening by quenching was done in the eastern provinces of Japan during the 16th century, but more studies on the topic are needed.

All the armors analyzed had a hardness in between 100 and 322 VHP, which is in line with world armor of the period. We could speculate to see a hypothetical quenched pieces with a hardness of 400-500 VHP but no data were given for that specific sample.

While for quality, there are few examples that stood out for their extremely low amount of slag inclusions in the steel: some pieces (the top tier ones) were made with completely reduced plates that had a % of slag under the 1%.
The high quality of the plates is verified by the performance of the armors in the battlefields, which prevented the major threats of the period and saved the warrior's life in many occasions.



Thank you for your time! If you enjoyed this article, please feel free to share it and for any questions don't hesitate to leave a comment below!

Gunbai



(references :

"江戸時代の草摺に用いられた小札の鋼板製作方法"  by " 釘屋奈都子 , 永田和 宏 , 桐 野 文 良 and  北 田 正 弘"

"室町時代末期から江戸時代の鎧に用いられた鉄鋼材料の製作と加飾" by "釘屋奈都子 "


"Japanese arms and armour and their differences from European contemporaries" by "Alan Williams".

"Neutron diffraction characterization of Japanese artworks of Tokugawa age" by "Alan Williams, Francesco Grazzi, and Francesco Civita"

"Ancient and historic steel in Japan, India and Europe, a non-invasive comparative study using thermal neutron diffraction" by "Alan Williams, Francesco Grazzi, and Francesco Civita"

"Neutron diffraction characterization of Japanese armour components" by "Anna Fedrigo and Francesco Grazzi"

"The Manufacture Of Armour and Helmets in Sixteenth Century Japan" by "S.Kōzan"

"Phase composition mapping of a 17th century Japanese helmet " by "A. Fedrigo, F. Grazzi,  A. Williams, S. Kabra and M. Zoppi" )


Comments

  1. The part about quenched blade but cold-worked armour is the same when it comes to Chinese armour.

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    1. Very interesting! I would like to read more about it.
      Apparently is the same with Ottoman armors.

      Were the soldiers of the Ming issued with standard gear or were they supposed to buy the gear for themselves? I'm quite interested in this topic.

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    2. Few Chinese armours survived so it's hard for me to make any broad-brushed claim, but I am not aware of any Chinese armours (fragments of lamellar plates included) that have quenching applied.

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    3. I guess that more studies should be done on this field, but the tests are either very expensive or destructive so we likely won't see further development soon unfortunately

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    4. I've heard from modern armourers that quenching small lamellar plate is easier than sword blade or large plate armour since the plate is small enough that chance of things going crack/wrong is reduced. There might be other reasons why this was not done historically.

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    5. Yes it is right, the smaller the plate the easier the process. I think that cost might be the number one reason: if you want to mass produce armors, having all of them quenched will increase the time required to make armors, not to mention that is a hit and miss process which could fail.
      Even in Europe, only the armors worn by the nobles were quenched hence why they were so expensive

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  2. Brilliant article, Gunsen!

    Nice to have more articles which completely dismisses that the Japanese had crap quality steel, a myth that really needs to die...

    Also one question, I am currently trying to decided between getting Thomas Conlan's State of War: A Violent Order in Fourteenth Century Japan or Karl Friday's Samurai Warfare and The State in Early Medieval Japan... If you happen to have read both of these books which one would I get the most value out of from reading information on Samurai weaponry, armor, and warfare tactics in your opinion?

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    1. Thank you so much!

      To your question; I haven't read both. I only have Friday's book and I have to say that despite I don't like few theories of the author ( he seems to dismiss way too much the Japanese horses and bows as I have explained in my article Did Cavalry existed) it's a solid book that offers a very good overview on several fields, not only martial ones.

      I cannot talk about Conlan's book, but if you are interested in military history I have to say that most of the things written by Friday are already in this blog.
      I will buy Conlan eventualy since I've loved in little need of Divine Intervention, and I think that he is more military history oriented.
      I might be wrong but I suspect that both books are extremely good and worth their value.

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    2. Your welcome sir!

      And yeah, I actually listened to one of his lectures on YouTube and I have to say, I almost kind of didn't like how Friday disregards the Samurai horse and bow as being non-important and ineffective in Japanese history, but your excellent articles on both Japanese Calvary and the Yumi completely countered that imo... But other then that yeah his information on Samurai warfare was straight up solid indeed and one can actually gain some valuable knowledge from his lectures and books. Here is the lecture video I was talking about...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCG6iRl-L4

      Oh yeah absolutely! Conlan's In Little Need of Divine Intervention is superb, loved every minute of it especially in research...

      Unfortunately I had someone who said Conlan took it too far and made up seem like it was easy for the Samurai to fight off the Mongols and that in reality in the Mongols did actually still managed to take over Tsushima, Iki, Oki and Hirado in the second Invasion as well Taka Island lol... Not sure if he was being serious or he literally still wanted to believe that the Japanese only managed to pull through the invasion is because of the inflated Kamikaze storms theory saying that "much of the "victories" listed in wikipedia amount to Japanese force finish off the stranded survivors after the typhoon"...

      But yes I agree--- one cannot really go wrong with ether Conlan or Friday's books to be honest cause you will at least be learning something valuable from both of their books...

      I definitely want to buy Conlan's State of War book eventually...

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    3. I will listen to that lecture! Unfortunately both authors share this weird idea of Japanese horses being a hindrance rather than an asset in war which honestly doesn't fit with the fact that they were used quite a lot especially in the Heian and Kamakura period.

      Well I will write an article about the Mongol Invasion! Honestly I didn't had the impression that it was easier to fight the invaders for the Samurai, but that things were much more equal.
      The common idea is that the Samurai cannot deal any serious damage and were saved twice by the storms but in reality they managed to set up a very strong resistance.
      Also, during the second invasion it's true that those islands were taken because the invading army had such massive numbers that swarmed the defenders; but the main plan was to conquer Japan by landing into Kyushu and they weren't able to make significant progresses after quite a few months so in the grand scheme of things it wasn't a big deal at all

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    4. What? During the second invasion,Tsushima completely repel the Invaders, they also lost that Iki and Hirado how can it be said these places were conquered?

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    5. There are plenty of sources that describe the route of the invasion so I'm not surprised to see different versions.
      Well, I can see what you are saying but the situation went like this:

      The eastern navy attacked Tsushima and Iki and occupied them. The invaders severely outnumbered the defenders so there wasn't much of a fight, but it's also true that they didn't occupied them for a long period.
      In fact after 20 days they sailed to Hakata but this time were repelled effectively.
      Then they retreat to Shika (also know as Shikano) but were unable to land, and so they mover back to Iki.

      At this point Iki was attacked by a Samurai fleet, it was liberated and the eastern navy was forced to retreat again towards Hirado, to met with the Southern fleet.
      Few days later the second navy arrived and they both attacked Takashima. They weren't able to make any progress and retreat again towards Tshushima after a decesive defeat, probably in order to go back to Korea, but at this time they were hit by the storm.
      This is more or less the route that makes sense with all the sources in my opinion, but I might find something new since I'm still trying to figuring out with all the documents.

      At every point during the invasion the fleets were constantly harrassed by small boats which decimated the Mongol army; in fact compared to the first invasion there were much more fights on the sea.

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    6. @Gunsen

      Oh yeah highly agreed--- Especially when even after the Heian and Kamakura period... Horses still continued to be rather active even from the Nanbokucho Period and Sengoku Period....

      Indeed, I didn't ether... It seemed more like Conlan wanted to make it clear it wasn't easy for the Samurai to fight off the Mongols, but it was not a curbstomp for the Mongols like at all...

      Ahhh so the Mongols were successful in taking over the islands in the second Invasion at first, but then eventually reinforcements were able to repel them?

      Also yes please, I'd love to see your blog on the Mongol Invasion of Japan, both the first and second invasion!

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    7. Thanks for the reply but are you sure you're not mixing it up with the first Invasion that sounds a little bit more like the first invasion, also you missed the Battle of Taka Island, where the last major battle was held.

      Not meant to come off as an insult by the way.

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    8. By the way @Strider Hiryu, about the guy that was saying that the book was made up and it was all due to the storm, I think that's of a kind of problem really, what I mean is anything remotely positive about Samurai,Japanese metallurgy or martial arts culture in general you will have some people( not a lot mind you) that will try in any way do down play it, say No that's not true or find some way to make it look bad, I noticed this sometimes even have this happened to me when I try to explain Japanese steel wasn't crap & this guy keep calling me a weeaboo, even when I show the articles on this website & more he denied it & try to use anecdotal evidence as proof of that.

      @Gunsen had this happened to him as well when some guy try to use his own articles against them on Japanese metallurgy I mean for real?

      I don't know what's about, years trying to debunk Super Samurai myths with more myths( how ironic) just won't go away with some people, fear of samurai could actually stand a chance in a pointless fantasy fight( honestly suspect that's one of the reasons) or and I know this is true with some people eurocentrism( and some other people's nationalistic Pride) that is a large minority though IMHO.

      Just something I noticed when Japanese history is concern, I got some guesses but I really don't know the reason for.

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    9. @Strider Hiryu

      Yes, pretty much; Tsushima and Iki were strategical for the Yuan forces because they needed to land, since the Korean strait is a very long distance (especially for the 13th century), before reaching Hakata and try a full scale attack.
      On the other hand, these islands were rather small and hard to defend, so for the Japanese it was logical to set the fortifications in the Hakata bay, which was the main target of the Mongols.
      I would argue that those two small islands were also left with a small garrison on purpose, in order to have more warriors in Kyushu.

      @Eagle 1
      Yes I'm pretty sure; in fact if yo go by the sources, it is said that the Yuan suffered some casualties but were able to land and occupy the island for few weeks.
      Even in the main Wikipedia page concerning the Kōan campaign it's written something like that.
      The only thing I found that said differently is the main English wiki overview of the Mongol invasion but at this point I think it's flawed ( well after all it's still wikipedia).
      I mean there was a raid, the Yuan stayed in the island and lost some men, and then sailed to Hakata bay which was the main plan; I wouldn't call that a victory.

      Also the battle of Taka Island is actually the battle of Takashima in fact the word Shima - 島 means Island in Japanese. It might be a weird translation. Anyway it was at that battle that the Mongols suffered a decisive defeat.

      By the way it's good that people leave comments and questions if they felt that I was wrong; I'm human and also not a professional historian so I can make mistakes sometimes so it was good that you expressed your doubts ;)!

      Also yes, as soon as you approach something similar to a comparison, from a random thing to "alternate history", people get triggerred so fast and they get toxic as hell. I don't know which discussion @Strider was involved but I hope it didn't turn into a toxic mess.
      Honestly I like history, Japanese culture especially Buddhism and architecture and I like arms&armors so this is why I decided to create this blog but that doesn't mean I despise other cultures. A lot of my debunking articles are meant to tell a well reasoned perspective, with sources, on a topic. I don't pretend to say the 100% thruth because I have no time machine but I put my efforts to be intellectually honest and accurate.
      On the other hand, I see a lot of people trying to use History to fanboying their heroes (like with the Cagayan battle for example), especially with English forums ( I have never seen anything like that in a Japanese one). I think that if someone got angry because "factually" the Japanese swords weren't brittle glass bars but steel swords adopted by several cultures, they have some serious problems.
      I can understand that there was a problem in the 90s and 2000s with people being ninja&samurai annyoing fanboys but it's 2020 and we are all mature people that love history.

      Sometime I join those "debates" to train my English rethoric a bit, and leave my sources but if they refuse to acknowledge them, good for them; I have better things to do like writing articles in this blog ;)

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    10. Just a minor correction; after a third check, I was wrong (of course after few minutes of my last comment).

      Tsushima was attacked by the first fleet on the 21st of May and it was defended effectively so that the Yuan decided to return to Korea. They then attacked Iki on June 10th and so on.
      Tsushima itself wasn't occupied.

      In any case when I will write about the Mongol Invasion I will explain better!

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    11. @Gunsen

      Thank you for your info!--- This was highly informative and I do indeed have high respect for you already that is for sure! --- Highly looking forward to your Mongol Invasion blog!

      As for what debate it was--- It wasn't necessarily a debate... But I made a post on Reddit in a For Honor sub-reddit with backed up resources and articles to show that Samurai were not as primitive as one as would think as well as the Mongols, Ming, Joseon, and European accounts on their thoughts about the Samurai which were positive, but it was met with negative reception and became my most downvoted post in history, on that same post is the same guy who said that Conlan's book on the Mongol Invasion is overblown (despite also admitting that he doesn't know enough about the history to completely debunk it) :' )

      @Eagle

      YES THANK YOU!--- That is exactly what I noticed... The moment I started showing verified historical documents, tactics, and weapons which Samurai (Sengoku era particularly) used that completely counter someone like the Spartans, Roman Centurions, and Vikings as well as stand a fighting chance against a Knight as I wanted to clear up misconceptions... Some quick to turn around and call me a weeaboo as well dismiss my resources as over-exaggeration, fabrication, and even using the "it's not true!" argument lol

      It is as I said and told to Gunsen just now... I literally showed multiple academic resources and articles which documents accounts of Mongolian, Chinese, Korean, and European soldiers actually respecting and praising Samurai's skills in the art of war showing that the Japanese were not just all talk and no show on the For Honor sub-reddit... But the post got down voted to oblivion .... So I share your pain...

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    12. If you can read Japanese, maybe this book is better ? 『蒙古襲来と神風 - 中世の対外戦争の真実』by 服部 英雄

      It is published in 2017 and contains more up-to-date researchs than Conlan's book (2001).

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    13. OH that's pretty good!

      Thank you for bringing this to our attention!

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    14. @Strider Hiryu
      You're welcome! I have to say that I'm planning to do first a complete overview of the arms, armors etc. used ( so I can have all the links in place) and then release a main article (probably 2 or 3 it depends) with the release of Ghost of Tsushima; the bad news is that is going to be in the future, the good one is that I'm planning to do a well researched project and that I will release articles of that period in the meantime.

      I'm sorry to hear about your experience on reddit... unfortunately internet is still the internet.

      @春秋戰國
      Thank you for the reference! I don't think my Japanese is good enough to approach a top tier book but I will try and see what I can get!

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    15. @Gunsen

      Brilliant! and yes--- making an article on the Mongol Invasion of Japan is DEFINITELY a good idea considering that Ghost of Tsushima is on the horizon (which I am stoked for besides Sekiro)!

      (Sorry for the late reply lol)

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  3. Very nice information. Is Sakakibara Kozan the only easily accessible information of period armor written in the past?


    Hardening by quenching and by cold hardening is strange. From what I read in Historum thread Late Ming Dynasty vs Tang Dynasty, Tibetan cold hardened their armor and it proved superior to heat hardened Tang armor or Song armor, from other source, I managed to get the info that plates are reduced 1/3 in thickness after cold hardening.



    I am currently examining the armors of the 16th century.

    While Europe and Japan, both use solid plate cuirass, the Middle East use only partial plate chest armor and China still use brigandine. However we have accounts that these Chinese armor can resist Japanese bullet.

    It seems that not that plate cuirass are not the ultimate direction that everyone try to achieve.

    According to debates on Historum in the topic of Late Ming vs Tang Dynasty, we get accounts of Manchu cavalry resisting musket bullets so much that Korean and Chinese musketeer are ordered to shoot at their hand and eyes.

    On separate accounts, we have early and mid 16th century French Gendarmes in full plate armor sustaining heavy casualties against or defeated by arquebus or mounted pistolier.

    Now I don't know if those are hyperbole or not, but I remember a quote that the Manchu of 17th century and Mongol armor of 16th century are superior to Ming armor. Ming armor that are considered good are inferior to Mongol armor and have bad metallurgy, yet those same armor can resist bullets in the Imjin War.

    It seems that the curving deflective design of the European cuirass are maybe designed more to deflect lance than projectiles since we also have flat Japanese plate armor with bullet marks.

    What is interesting is why the Japanese create the globose shape cuirass, is it in imitation to European shape or local needs?


    The Mughals are very interesting, they continue the heavy armor development from Ilkhanate to Jalayirid to Timurid and finally them.

    From some example, I think it is safe to say that they manage to have 15th century Europe man at arm level for their soldier.
    Some parts of their armor are superior to European one.


    I also want to know, if we have any info on the equipment of Mongol forces that attacked Japan because 13th century illustration on Mongol weapons and armor are hard to get. We only have the Japanese scroll and Ilkhanate books to show late 13th century-14th century armor, both are not showing the same things as Yuan statues and scrolls. European depiction are pretty useless to determine what they look like either.

    I am interested to know what kind of Mongol force that are defeated by Japanese, Vietnamese and Javanese.

    Maybe they are conscripts with different equipment to the main Mongol force.

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    1. Thank you!
      Yes pretty much, at least as far as the words "easily accessible" are concerned!

      I think that they got it wrong in that thread, to be honest; cold hardening is simply hammering which increase hardness by compressing and manipulating the grain size and orientation, but the microstructure is still the same; if you hammer a ferrite+cementite mixture, it will stay the same. It is quite good because you can raise the hardness from 60-120 VHP up to 300 if there is enough carbon.

      On the other hand, quenching and tempering changes the microstructure into tempered martensite, which has a greater hardness and spring properties. This allow the hardness of the piece to be raised up to 500-600 VHP which is very hard and on top of that has good shock absorption due to the spring tempering.
      So the latter is superior to the former when it comes to performance (still, 2mm of good hammered wrought iron could stop most weapons of the period, let alone 2mm of tempered steel!)

      As far as I know, only one Japanese armor piece was found with martensite in it but I'm not aware of any scientific paper dealing with Chinese armor; if you look up even 春秋戰國 said that there are no evidences of quenched Chinese armors.


      About plate and brigandine armor; I have to say that I'm not extremely well versed on Chinese armors to be honest.
      However, stopping a bullet in the 16th century is not an extremely impressive feat: a lot depends on the distance, the amount of powder used and other factors. In any case, a brigandine is perfectly capable of doing so.

      But a brigandine, having a lot of rivets in its construction, has a lot of potential failure points (i.e. the bullet hitting the rivets) and being made of single smaller plates is also likely to perform worst against impacts: the shock is absorbed by the small plate and at best the ones nearby while a larger plates has the shock absorbed by its whole lenght. Furthermore the shock applied will be supported by the rivets, since the plate tends to deform, and this means that a smaller plate having few rivets is likely to fail and break the integrity of the armor compared to a single plate that it is not riveted.

      The choice of brigandine is driven by cost in my opinion; Chinese armies were much larger than the ones deployed in Europe or even in Japan and the auhority was centralized. You didn't have a military feudal class that had the resources to buy their own top tier armors and so the design was much oriented towards cost and mass production efficiency. A brigandine is easier to mass produce, repair and resize for different people especially when you have "economies of scale"; a plate cuirass not so much.

      I have tried to answer myself why the Chinese never adopted plate armor here:

      https://www.quora.com/Throughout-its-history-did-the-Chinese-empire-ever-consider-to-build-or-adopt-plate-armor-just-like-Japan/answer/Luca-Nic-1?ch=10&share=2c342e19&srid=3z2sJ

      I cannot comment on the quality of Manchu/Ming/Mongolian armors but afaik the Manchu borrowed a lot from Ming armors.

      Also about the curvature: a curved plates is always better than a flat one. In fact is not only about the deflecting effect you could get, it'also about the force being dissipated more since the surface is not perpendicular to the strike and so the force is reduced (It's really about physic and force vectors).

      The steeper the angle the better: this is why you have the peascod around the 16th century, in response to firearms and for fashion.

      Also as far as I am aware, the tameshi plates are never flat: they are either curved or have a ridge like the Europeans ones.
      In fact I have to say that I have never seen flat Japanese plates. Maybe Sendai dō look flat but even them have some degree of curvature.
      The globose shape was the evolution of their traditional armor, in fact lamellar Japanese armor was already curved: this is why it's called dōmaru 胴丸, rounded breastplate; it was rounded in order to accomodate the body.

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    2. About the Yuan forces that invaded Japan:
      According to the famous scroll it seems that they wore brigandine, lamellar and gambesons-like coats. This is in line with the armors found in China and Korea at that time. They were also likely to have armored boots and for the helmet something resembling the classical Mongolian helmet with the brigandine neck protection, or a kettle hat type. This one is credited to be a Yuan helmet from the invasion :

      https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/b2/60/72b2606e6626168979b24154d3254b39.gif

      Some very questionable sources mention the use of mail during the second invasion: it can be but it cannot be verified at all.
      Other than that there isn't much info on this topic.

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    3. I doubt the brigandine intepretation of the Mongol Invasion scroll - they all seem to be wearing either lamellar, or some kind of padded armour. That helmet is more likely from Imjin War or later.

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    4. Thank you for answering my questions.

      I should have clarified further when I mean "easily accessible" that is often talked about and still can be bought or searched for.



      The cold hardening is better is not their opinion, it is actually a quote from a Song Dynasty observation which is why I also consider it strange.



      I guess what you mean by quenched is tempered, wouldn't armor that is just quenched hard and brittle, instead of hard and flexible?


      What would happen if the metal plate grain are laid in diagonal in addition to just chequer board pattern?


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    5. @春秋戰國

      Well I was quite sure about hat helmet being later period, I guess the Tsushima Museum is somewhat unreliable. What about this one?

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/The_helmet_of_a_Mongolian_army_%282%29.JPG

      Also about the armors, this section is a black and white copy of the scroll that depict the main styles of armor:

      https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DB7B2E/mongol-invasions-in-japan-1274-1281-attacking-mongolian-warriors-drawing-DB7B2E.jpg

      One is clearly a lamellar suit, then there is a "dotted" coat which is supposed to be some type of lamellar and the other might be a quilted coat of some sort. These is my educated guess but I could be wrong indeed.

      @Joshua Gani

      Yes I meant tempered; few steel items when they were quenched were left untempered because as you said it will be too brittle to be used.
      About the Song quote, it might be that the cold hardening is considered much more reliable, but I don't think they ever made tempered lamellae for their armors.

      About the grain pattern, honestly I don't know; the chequerwise pattern is adopted to facilitate the forging rather than anything else.

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    6. I think the Ming record of resisting bullets was referring to a helmet, which is made of larger plates than brigandine body armor. It also sounded like the Ming commanders had house guards that were personally equipped, in addition to central government troops.

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  4. As always, a wonderful article!!
    I want to know two things:
    1-The victorian bad restorations affected the Japanese armors as it happened with the European ones?
    2- Do you have any idea where the myth came from that the Japanese only wore leather armor?

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    1. Thank you!!

      1) Yes and no: during the Edo period a lot of suits were restored and studied following the traditional methods applied by the old armorers families like the Myochin, Haruta etc.
      Other armors however were destroyed in order to recycle the iron.
      However, after the Meiji restoration a lot of suits were sold and lost forever. I would argue that the biggest damage was done by WW2, ofcourse. But after the 1950s there was a revival and lot of efforts to gain that lost knowledge.
      Sadly a lot of armors, especially from the 16th century, were lost.

      2) Probably by the fact that earlier period armors (especially Oyoroi) were occasionally made entirely from rawhide and/or a combination of iron and rawhide. I think I will write an article about the usage of leather in armor, it is really underestimated imho.
      In any case I think that the "myth" was born out of the common popculture equation; Samurai>fast swordsmen>agility>light armor> leather armor.

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    2. I was more aware of the damage done by the WW2 to the swords, more than the armor. I remember reading that both ancient swords and shin gunto were equally destroyed. I understand that some swords were simply lost, although I do not know if it is a myth (I suppose not).
      I did not expect the armor to suffer the same fate at that time. In general, it is logical for me to recycle iron from the armours, since it is something that has always been done almost anywhere. After all, it's a quick way to get good quality material.
      Yes, the myth of leather armor was endured by some bad documentaries. Luckily there are good documentaries that do not fall into that, but are the least seen.
      Oh, I wanted to tell you a theory that I have. I am an Iaido practitioner and once commented to my sensei that in some manuals prior to the Edo period there were blockages with the edge of the blade. In general it was more a simple comment, but in my theory arose that perhaps in the late Edo period the swords were sharpened even more, or simply was losing some knowledge of how to make the swords more durable. Because otherwise I can not explain the reason for the lack of parrys with the edge, at least in the most modern manuals and katas, since a katana is not going to be unusable due to hitting edge to edge (that would be extremely impractical).
      I guess it would be interesting if one day you mention something about iaido.
      Sorry, many questions. Too many. Is that genuniamente I consider you a source of highly reliable knowledge. I learned a lot by reading your blog, and it helped me to understand many things (and to draw them too).
      I'm really grateful!

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    3. Yes a lot of gendaito were destroyed since they were used by the army, but many armors as well were lost due to bombs and by the war: people sold them and so on. A lot weren't restored and so they were lost to the ages.

      About your theory, you are actually right. In fact it was Suishinshi Masahide to say that there were distintictive trends in the production of swords (namely wider hamon and harder steel being used) that led to brittle swords:

      http://www.nihontocraft.com/Suishinshi_Masahide.html

      So yes, 16th century swords were much more durable; I've talked about that in my last post of this series.
      Also the mune or back of the blade is not a very strong part of the sword since it is not hardened due to clay being applied.

      About Iaido, and martial arts in general, I would like to do something in this blog but since I don't practice them I don't feel confident enough. I think that to approach those topics you need to experience them first hand, so I'll leave them to people who have much more experience than me ;)

      By the way, thank you for your kind words and don't worry about the questions; I apprecciated them!


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    4. Actually, I was asking you more about the origin of Iaido, I think an article about that would be great. I understand that the techniques of draining and cutting come from well before the Edo period, but they became something of their own, so to speak, in the Late Edo Period ...

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  5. Late reply but where's the post for the subreddit?

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    1. I believe it was this one but don't quote me on that, since I don't see any discussion ( maybe it was removed(?); I don't know since I wasn't involved in that):
      https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/ac9d83/interesting_thing_of_the_day_i_have_for_the_fh/

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    2. Perhaps not that, but maybe @Strider Hiryu can maybe help out if he still lurking here

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  6. what can you tell me about 南蛮胴/Nanbando?

    https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/南蛮胴

    was something that really technologically changed the sengoku period or was it more like a decorative purpose?

    I know that Japanese armor designs include Korean and Chinese as well.

    chinese/tokan-nari:

    https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/152-4-640x593.jpg
    https://i.redd.it/1gdizxk99cr01.png
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tokan_nari_kabuto.jpg
    https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/164-3-640x427.jpg

    2 kabutos here look chinese headgear to me

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futou

    korean:
    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/27587
    https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a-very-scarce-korean-japanese-nanban-kawari-bachi-234-c-84947a3b09

    it is quite likely that the so-called nanban Kabutos are more Korean than Western inspiration. Koreans already wore conical helmets (three kingdoms period) well before the Europeans ( evolved from spangenhelm in the migration period by eurasian invaders), late Japanese pirates (smugglers in china/korea legally supplying the Seto inland sea and western japan ) were more Korean and chinese than really japanese, naval battles between the Joseon dynasty and Wako were frequent. The joseon navy was the best asian equipped with artillery (the origin for 棒火矢 and maybe early cannons in japanese history) in the late middle ages after zheng he, also interestingly korean technology, books and cultural transfers from the muromachi/azuchi–momoyama period to the imjin war. It is important to note that the Korean peninsula was a larger economy than Japan until the 14th-15th centuries...

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chongtongs-Jinju_Castle.jpg

    the fire arrow here is too similar to be a coincidence

    I believe that armor designs in the "western" style would be more like a devotion to the Christian faith or under the jesuit influence notably in western kyushu and western chugoku, while Chinese cap-style would like to say "warriors can be Scholar-officials too, sword and pen together, fuck you Confucius" " we are more men of letters / strategists / intellectuals than fighters, we master the Chinese classics", as you may already know ... the Japanese armor was a strong reflection of the user's personality and the heterodox Wang Yangming was more often followed among the samurai in the edo neo-confucianism than zhu xi was.

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  7. If I'm correct then, would it be more a matter of artistic taste? Oda Nobunaga would have received a nanbando as gift, but apparently it was just stockpiled in the armory. the Japanese treated the Portuguese and Dutch as tributary subjects just like in China. As you already know it was the way international and formal relations functioned in the east asian cultural sphere, a friendly exchange of gifts:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_missions_to_Edo


    King James I also received Japanese armor
    (trade with Japan in the pre-sakoku period)

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:King_James_I_Japanese_suit_of_armour.jpg

    "One of the two Japanese suits of armour presented by Tokugawa Hidetada and entrusted to John Saris to convey to King James I in 1613. The pictured suit of armour is displayed in the Tower of London."

    You really would not find it strange the king of england had a Japanese armor in his collection. "Orientalism" (including technology) has always been really strong in Europe since classical antiquity

    just to name a few examples in modern history:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinoiserie
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japonism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turquerie
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_in_early_modern_France

    wikipedia can offer you some information on this subject. However, it is still preferable to read academic papers

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rembrandtselfportraitweb.jpg

    "Rembrandt's self-portrait as an oriental potentate with a kris/keris, a Javanese blade weapon from the VOC era (etching, c. 1634). Also, he was one of the first known western printmakers to extensively use (the VOC-imported) Japanese paper. It's important to note that some major figures of Dutch Golden Age art like Rembrandt and Vermeer never went abroad during their lifetime"

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Jan_van_der_Heyden_-_Still-life_with_Rarities_-_WGA11397.jpg

    BTW, is that a naginata?

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    1. Well it's a complicated topic that would have a dedicated article, but the short answer is that Nanban do were not important nor revolutionary as it is often claimed.

      By the time the first official Nanban do arrived in the 1570s, the Japanese were already making single plate clamshell cuirasses.
      Once I had the opportunity to ask the same question to Ian Bottomley who is the former curator of the eastern collection at the Royal Armouries in Leeds, and he told me that Nanban do and kabuto should be seen in the same way we see kawari kabuto: a very exotic and artistic armor which was used to make the warrior recognizable on the battlefield and give him prestige.
      The same thing apply for Chinese and Korean helmets.

      Nanban do were surely praised for their quality, but as far as defensive value is concerned, the Japanese armor of the period was able to obtain the same result and functionality. In fact it is worth to say that 99% of all the nanban do you can see are wasei nanban do which means Japanese made. Very few items were imported and as you said more often than not they were not worn.

      The Nanban kabuto is actually inspired by European Morions and Cabasette rather than Korean helmets, mainly because Korean helmets were used in Japanese armor and had their own name (which I cannot remember at the moment) but also because the point of Nanban helmets usually have a stalk like projection on top which is typical of these helmets, or sometime it has the same comb usually found on Morions.
      However occasionally Nanban kabuto is used as an umbrella term to indicate any helmets inspired by foreign design, so even Korean helmets.

      About the 棒火矢, the rockets are indeed very similar, although in Japan they were either shot by small cannons or large bore arquebus. It might be that they had the same design origin!

      About the armor, it was a matter of taste as you suggested. Few Japanese armors made it through Europe as diplomatic gifts and if you are interested there is an article made by Ian Bottomley on the subject: "Diplomatic gifts of arms and armour between Japan and Europe during the 16th and 17th centuries".

      And also yes that looks like a Naginata!

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  8. I loved to find your blog because it made me reflect how many Westerners aroused interest in the Portuguese age of discovery simply because of a childish and ridiculous MMA fight between knights and samurai. Something little known is that the Portuguese were not a dominant force in trade between Japan and China, nor with Southeast Asia, in fact far from it, to give you a notion in the edo period when western influence was already much bigger around the world and when Japan was a cash cow (copper) for the Dutch East India Company, the Chinese trade in nagasaki was 3 times larger than the Dutch and considering the other 3 access ports for Japan at the time tsushima (korea), matsumae (ezo) and kagoshima (satsuma ryukyu), the commerce of japan with the rest of Asia still much larger though less, only a fleet of 1 or 2 ships (usually built in India) left Goa every year to reach nagasaki. The Portuguese India Armadas were diplomacy and trade at the same time, banked by and property of the Portuguese crown with the obvious intention of enriching the crown itself, the Portuguese who truly sailed between China and Japan used mixed Chinese-Japanese-Indian-Portuguese vessels. The origin for these merchants might or might not be members of the Portuguese India Armadas that worked for the viceroy of India and then consequently for the king of portugal, thereby gaining salary, nautical experience, and thus starting their own private businesses/trade. Yet they remained a minority and relied on collaboration with Japanese merchants for profit. Since they were not officials of the Portuguese crown, bureaucrats, their papers did not end in the royal archives at the TORRE DE BELÉM in lisbon, so little is known about them, things like the logbook type

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    1. Thank you! I'm glad you were able to find it ;)

      I think it's a true shame that so many people approach the Europeand and Eastern relations during the 16th century in a childish and "deadliest warrior" style.
      I was able to learn a lot looking at those relationships which more often than not were peacefull and healty.
      It is also true that the presence of Europeans in East Asia as a super military power is way overblown by some "fanboys"; as you pointed out is was far from being true and they were a marginal factors especially in trade with Japan. Important as middle men but not that much outside that role.

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